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		<title>Comment on Friends Historical Association by wow power leveling</title>
		<link>http://news.haverford.edu/blogs/special/2009/01/18/friends-historical-association/comment-page-1/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>wow power leveling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  Thanks for the great resource.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Quakers and Music by Vernon White</title>
		<link>http://news.haverford.edu/blogs/special/2009/11/02/quakers-and-music/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Vernon White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this.  I recall a 17th C tract about the Friends Meeting in Southwark, which regularly disrupted by violent militia.  Having detailed various incidents of brutality in the first few pages, it spends the remainder inveighing against bear-baiting, theatre- acting, ballet-singers and sundry other local entertainment industries. 

I think we have come a long way . . . did &quot;The Gates of Greenham&quot; reach your shores?  No-one has rapped in our Meeting yet, though!

Vernon - Cornwall, UK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this.  I recall a 17th C tract about the Friends Meeting in Southwark, which regularly disrupted by violent militia.  Having detailed various incidents of brutality in the first few pages, it spends the remainder inveighing against bear-baiting, theatre- acting, ballet-singers and sundry other local entertainment industries. </p>
<p>I think we have come a long way . . . did &#8220;The Gates of Greenham&#8221; reach your shores?  No-one has rapped in our Meeting yet, though!</p>
<p>Vernon &#8211; Cornwall, UK</p>
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		<title>Comment on On the sale by auction of Keats&#8217; love-letters by Quaker &#38; Special Collections &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shall I give you Miss Brawne?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker &#38; Special Collections &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shall I give you Miss Brawne?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it was Roberts himself who purchased this letter when it was put up for auction on March 2, 1885 is not certain, but realized prices marked in an extant auction catalog indicate [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on On the sale by auction of Keats&#8217; love-letters by John Anderies</title>
		<link>http://news.haverford.edu/blogs/special/2009/09/25/on-the-sale-by-auction-of-keats-love-letters/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>John Anderies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jack Shepherd: Thanks for your question about our Keats letter.  25 College Street was an address in London where Keats lived briefly in 1819.  An excerpt from Andrew Motion&#039;s biography of Keats (which served as inspiration for the movie) explains this exact time in Keats life:

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/542409.html

All best,
John Anderies
Head of Special Collections</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jack Shepherd: Thanks for your question about our Keats letter.  25 College Street was an address in London where Keats lived briefly in 1819.  An excerpt from Andrew Motion&#8217;s biography of Keats (which served as inspiration for the movie) explains this exact time in Keats life:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/542409.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/542409.html</a></p>
<p>All best,<br />
John Anderies<br />
Head of Special Collections</p>
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		<title>Comment on Shall I give you Miss Brawne? by Mary Ann Cappiello '90</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Ann Cappiello '90</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this letter! I want to reach out and hold it in my very own hands. For now, this cyber-glance will have to suffice.</description>
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		<title>Comment on On the sale by auction of Keats&#8217; love-letters by Jack Shepherd, Haverford 1960</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Shepherd, Haverford 1960</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friends:

Can anyone tell me where the address on the Keats&#039; letter is located? I believe it is &quot;25 College St.&quot;, but would that be in London or one of the two major British universities, Oxford or Cambridge?

The power of the letter remains strong today, and reading it one is almost overcome with the power of Keats&#039; love for Fanny and his sense that it will not ever be fulfilled.

Jack Shepherd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends:</p>
<p>Can anyone tell me where the address on the Keats&#8217; letter is located? I believe it is &#8220;25 College St.&#8221;, but would that be in London or one of the two major British universities, Oxford or Cambridge?</p>
<p>The power of the letter remains strong today, and reading it one is almost overcome with the power of Keats&#8217; love for Fanny and his sense that it will not ever be fulfilled.</p>
<p>Jack Shepherd</p>
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		<title>Comment on Germantown Quaker Protest Against Slavery, 1688 by Ann Upton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Upton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your question concerning the main points within the Germantown Quaker Protest.

Jean Soderlund in Quakers &amp; Slavery : a divided spirit, says:

&quot;The earliest known antislavery appeal of Pennsylvania Quakers was signed in 1688 by Gerrit Hendricks, Derick op den Graeff, Francis Daniel Pastorius, and Abraham op den Graeff of the Germantown meeting. These men opposed the slave trade on the grounds that it encouraged theft and adultery, raised the possibility of rebellion, gave Pennsylvania and the Society of Friends bad reputations, and was contrary to the Golden Rule, that is to do unto others as you wish others to do unto you (Luke 6:31).&quot;
(http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/record=b1094930~S12 p. 18)

Thomas Drake in Quakers and Slavery in America gives a more detailed analysis:

&quot;In 1688 the little Quaker gathering at the house of Tones Kunders drew up a formal remonstrance against slavery and the slave trade and submitted it to the monthly meeting of Friends in nearby Dublin: &quot;These are the reasons,&quot; the Germantown Friends said, &quot;why we are against the traffic of men-body, as followeth: Is there any [among us] that would be done or handled at this manner? Viz. to be sold or made a slave for all the time of his life?&quot; They remembered, they said the fear which had gripped them on their voyage across the sea when they thought they might be captured by Turkish pirates and sold into slavery. Was it not worse, they asked, for Christians to act like the Turks, and steal Negroes from their native Africa to keep them in lifelong bondage? Was this an application of the golden rule?

The Germantown Quakers could see no more reason for enslaving black men than white. They had come to Pennsylvania themselves to find liberty of conscience: &quot;liberty of the body&quot; should also prevail. Christians, instead of compounding the crime of manstealing by separating slave husbands from their wives and forcing them into adultery, ought to deliver the Negores &quot;out of the hands of the robbers.&quot; At the least they should refuse to purchase slaves.

In more practical vein, the Germantown settlers warned their fellow Pennsylvanians that the news that &quot;Quakers do here handle men&quot; as people in Europe &quot;handle there [sic] cattle,&quot; would make an extremely ill report among prospective immigrants in Holland and Germany. Furthermore they feared a slave revolt – thinking perhaps of what had happened in Barbados – and asked the other Quakers what they as professors of peace would do if the slaves should [revolt].&quot;
(http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/record=b1448213~S10 p. 11-12)

Ann Upton
Quaker Bibliographer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your question concerning the main points within the Germantown Quaker Protest.</p>
<p>Jean Soderlund in Quakers &amp; Slavery : a divided spirit, says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The earliest known antislavery appeal of Pennsylvania Quakers was signed in 1688 by Gerrit Hendricks, Derick op den Graeff, Francis Daniel Pastorius, and Abraham op den Graeff of the Germantown meeting. These men opposed the slave trade on the grounds that it encouraged theft and adultery, raised the possibility of rebellion, gave Pennsylvania and the Society of Friends bad reputations, and was contrary to the Golden Rule, that is to do unto others as you wish others to do unto you (Luke 6:31).&#8221;<br />
(<a href="http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/record=b1094930~S12" rel="nofollow">http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/record=b1094930~S12</a> p. 18)</p>
<p>Thomas Drake in Quakers and Slavery in America gives a more detailed analysis:</p>
<p>&#8220;In 1688 the little Quaker gathering at the house of Tones Kunders drew up a formal remonstrance against slavery and the slave trade and submitted it to the monthly meeting of Friends in nearby Dublin: &#8220;These are the reasons,&#8221; the Germantown Friends said, &#8220;why we are against the traffic of men-body, as followeth: Is there any [among us] that would be done or handled at this manner? Viz. to be sold or made a slave for all the time of his life?&#8221; They remembered, they said the fear which had gripped them on their voyage across the sea when they thought they might be captured by Turkish pirates and sold into slavery. Was it not worse, they asked, for Christians to act like the Turks, and steal Negroes from their native Africa to keep them in lifelong bondage? Was this an application of the golden rule?</p>
<p>The Germantown Quakers could see no more reason for enslaving black men than white. They had come to Pennsylvania themselves to find liberty of conscience: &#8220;liberty of the body&#8221; should also prevail. Christians, instead of compounding the crime of manstealing by separating slave husbands from their wives and forcing them into adultery, ought to deliver the Negores &#8220;out of the hands of the robbers.&#8221; At the least they should refuse to purchase slaves.</p>
<p>In more practical vein, the Germantown settlers warned their fellow Pennsylvanians that the news that &#8220;Quakers do here handle men&#8221; as people in Europe &#8220;handle there [sic] cattle,&#8221; would make an extremely ill report among prospective immigrants in Holland and Germany. Furthermore they feared a slave revolt – thinking perhaps of what had happened in Barbados – and asked the other Quakers what they as professors of peace would do if the slaves should [revolt].&#8221;<br />
(<a href="http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/record=b1448213~S10" rel="nofollow">http://tripod.brynmawr.edu/record=b1448213~S10</a> p. 11-12)</p>
<p>Ann Upton<br />
Quaker Bibliographer</p>
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		<title>Comment on Germantown Quaker Protest Against Slavery, 1688 by Ted van Voorthuijsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted van Voorthuijsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What were the main points of the Quaker argument?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Haverford Keats letter featured in new Jane Campion film by Quaker &#38; Special Collections &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shall I give you Miss Brawne?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker &#38; Special Collections &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Shall I give you Miss Brawne?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our letter from John Keats to Fanny Brawne which makes an appearance in the form of dialogue in the Jane Campion movie Bright Star came to Haverford with the autograph collection of Charles Roberts, Haverford class of 1864. Roberts began his collection of autograph letters while a student at Haverford and went on to amass one of the premiere collections in the United States.  After his death in 1902, his widow Lucy Branson Roberts gave the collection to the College, along with the funds to build an assembly hall which would long house the collection. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our letter from John Keats to Fanny Brawne which makes an appearance in the form of dialogue in the Jane Campion movie Bright Star came to Haverford with the autograph collection of Charles Roberts, Haverford class of 1864. Roberts began his collection of autograph letters while a student at Haverford and went on to amass one of the premiere collections in the United States.  After his death in 1902, his widow Lucy Branson Roberts gave the collection to the College, along with the funds to build an assembly hall which would long house the collection. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Haverford Keats letter featured in new Jane Campion film by Quaker &#38; Special Collections &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On the sale by auction of Keats&#8217; love-letters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker &#38; Special Collections &#187; Blog Archive &#187; On the sale by auction of Keats&#8217; love-letters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As mentioned last week, text from a letter in Special Collections is featured in the new film, Bright Star. Jane Campion&#8217;s period piece tells the story of the tragic love between sickly poet John Keats and fashionable girl-next-door Fanny Brawne. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As mentioned last week, text from a letter in Special Collections is featured in the new film, Bright Star. Jane Campion&#8217;s period piece tells the story of the tragic love between sickly poet John Keats and fashionable girl-next-door Fanny Brawne. [...]</p>
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